Why is the MX5 class so popular in QLD?

[fish]

yep the racing is where it is at......totally agree with you Brett ...pity more southerners didn't have the same attitude towards coming up here to race us QLD'rs....maybe they are just scared of a bit of competition

[Cal]

I think there is a couple of NSW guys coming up for the V8 round. I thought there would have been more.

Same here. Kind of disappointing when we go down south so much.

[Boyracer]

I would be there if I could afford it...

[SKYHI]

Where there's a will there's a way

Paul.

[Cal]

I would be there if I could afford it...

Sell some organs

[fish]

afford it ....pppffft who can afford to do what we do ?????
credit cards they are an amazing thing .....

put it on there and worry about paying later !!!!

[colster3]

As a new race car owner/driver (Gonna get the thing up to Wakefield on the 9th of June for some seat time), I would concur with all the sentiments listed here. Happy to convert my car to comply with 2F, just not sure how much change is required.
Boyracer, I believe you built this thing, seems to me doors with working bits, a spare chair in the left hand side & some semi-slicks would just about do eh?
I don't claim to have anywhere near a budget, just plan to do selected State rounds, 6 hour relay (if I can rustle up a team) and FOSC. The rest of the time it will be supersprints for me ATM.

[irwin83r]

everyone i know that wants to race their mx5 just plain cant afford it

i mean i enjoy supersprints but im guessing by mid next year im going to be getting over it and want some real racing.. but whats out there other than prod sports i dont know, i haven't looked into it really yet.

what dose prod sports cost a round on average? what do you get as far as track time?

idealy in my eyes what needs to be out there is a class that will let you run a street car with a brown davis or alike and harness aswell as light mods up to say suspension, CAI, exhausts, ecu, cams, flywheels and diffs ie nothing the weekend mechanic could install them self, but also having a class for standard cars with the same safety features. why a street car? because i and alot of others cant afford a trailer and a tow car nor do i or alot of others have anywhere to park one.. thats not to say full on race cars wouldnt be welcome. it would just have to have classes similar to the club track day setup only problem being having them all on the track at the same time??
as for the actual events it would have to be a morning sprint format event for qualifying/familiarization, followed by a real races.. im not sure about how you would go for time.. ive never looked at that side of it.. but i know my self and others wouldnt be interested if there wasnt a proper race/races that went for atleast 30min. i mean thats the one thing thats actually making me and others think twice about doing super sprints next year.. not only that its not real racing but the fact that the amount of track time you get seems to vary greatly ranging from okay value too what honestly feels like a total rip off and thats not saying the organisers are robbing you its just not possible to get that many sprints in in one day theres so much down time with warm up and warm down laps and the interchange between groups. with a real race there would much less down time i would think..

as for track fees supersprints are starting to get towards the top of what i would want to be paying once a month.. but i guess i would be able to stretch to around 200-250 if the events were more value for money ie more time on the black stuff and proper racing. but even then if you doing a proper race once a month how many sets of tyres and pads would you be looking at? would a control tyre and pad bring costs down? would someone like QFM do a control pad at a lower rate if everyones going to be buying them?

im not in any way having a go at the supersprint organizers here let me make that clear. they do an amazing job and i've enjoyed everyday ive particepated in, i just want some more track time and longer sessions but thats more the fact that the tracks close too early and open too late. i guess i just wanted to point out that the people that boyracer would want to attract would be the supersprinters and me being one of them these are my views (however i cant speak on all their behalfs)

[SKYHI]

Irwin83r,

We have the perfect class for you, it's called 2F \"Production Sports Cars\".
Everything you mention is achievable, it'll just come down to how much compromise you want to have between a \"daily driver\" and \"race car\".

I recently purchased a completely stock, road registered, NA8 clubman that I planned to race. I have since stripped out the interior put in a roll cage, a few other safety items, put in some good brake pads, good fluids and semi slick tyres and now I'm racing. I'm not entirely sure how the brown davis bars go as far as the CAMS regs go but I have seen guys racing with half cages installed. I have a mod plate on the car for the cage, seat and harness and it's all still 100% street legal.

I recently drove my car to and from the track and I know of others that do it here in QLD. As I said there will always be a bit of a compromise but you don't need to have the fastest, full on \"race car\" to get involved and have a lot of fun. My car is completely stock as far as drivetrain and engine go and yes I'm down the back, but with a few little engine mods I'll be mixing it up with the 1600 \"race\" cars and some of the slower 1800s.

Apart from the initial outlay it won't really cost much more than the sprints depending on what type of events you choose to do. We are lucky here in QLD to have a great series of affordable racing at QR run under the AASA banner. I've said previously if you guys in NSW could get the management at Wakefield to do something similar I believe club racing would boom.

In the meantime you have the prodsports events and the FOSC events to consider which are still reasonable value. Maybe some of the other NSW guys can fill you in a bit more about the details of these events. Check out their websites:

http://www.prodsports.com.au/

http://www.fosc.com.au/

Paul.

[irwin83r]

is FOSC cams affiliated or AASA?

where can i see the regs regarding what i need to do to my car safety wise and also what mods put me in what class?? as my car is not standard

[SKYHI]

is FOSC cams affiliated or AASA?

where can i see the regs regarding what i need to do to my car safety wise and also what mods put me in what class?? as my car is not standard

FOSC are CAMS affiliated.

2F regs are here (2nd Category : Sports Cars)

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/racing.asp

But if your car is still a road car then I doubt you've done anything that wouldn't comply.

Paul.

[Cal]

Don't worry about the trailer and tow car thing. Real sports cars are dríven to and from the track.

[SKYHI]

Do you drive your car to and from race meetings ?

What's it like on the road ?

Do the police pull you over ?

Cheers
Brett

I've dríven mine to and from the track as it's still registered.

It's not too bad on the road considering the spring rates and alignment settings but my engine is also stock. Pretty heavy in the steering department without power steering but on the highway it's alright.

I've never been pulled over by the police in my two registered track cars but I'm pretty careful about my speeds because I know I'd be targeted pretty quickly If I was to do anything stupid

Paul.

[SKYHI]

What spring rates did you go for with your Tein Flex. I use Tein Flex and went with the 9kg/6Kg. Works well. I am going to try 10kg on the front for the FoSC meeting and see what that is like.

Brett

I'm running 9/6 as well. I've only had one run in it since they were installed and I suffered a little understeer from apex to corner exit on longer corners. I have since changed the front sway bar from middle to soft and I'm getting the alignment tweaked today for Oran Park.

However, I was talking to another competitor yesterday who flat out told me that the car is way oversprung and that I should be running 7kg front and 4kg rears?

I'm counting the days

Paul.

[SKYHI]

I'm running the same, Whiteline 24mm adj front bar and standard rear bar.

Are you running the front sway bar on soft?

Paul.