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Adrenalin shakes?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:42 pm
by bensale
The adrenalins do have a reasonalbly stiff side wall, part of it could be due to that. Over certain bumps my car has always shaked, although i run quite high tyre pressures. I'm used to it. What tyres were you previosly running, perhaps the siderwalls were a lot softer and more compliant. Lowering the tyre pressure means that the tyres will absorb more of the impact going over a bump, the same effect as having a softer sidewall.

The C-drive does have a softer side wall, although the adrenalins have more grip. I would say its quite likely what you are feeling is due to the stiffness of the sidewall transmiting more of the impact shock into the car.

What alignment specs did you use?

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:15 pm
by 16bit
i would say its just the stiffer side walls. apart from the chassi braces you have put on, the na6 was the least braced from memory so it may effect your model more - don't know but just throwing it out there. if everything was fine before and thats the only difference it must be it - surely.

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:02 pm
by bigdog
My vote is for poor wheel alignment - I would go to a specialist and get it checked. From the description it is most likely the rear wheel alignment causing the problem, not the front.

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:51 pm
by wun911
I havent noticed any problems with mine and I run a lower profile higher pressure and stiffer suspension...
Assume all the wheels are balanced.

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:22 pm
by philz
I'm running 195/50/R15 and I've noticed a much better ride quality, hardly any shakes and scuttles which aren't out of the norm.

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:45 pm
by bensale
As a matter of interest could you describe the shake further. Is it a 'crashing' noise (seeking a better expression) when you go over large bumps or something different?

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:48 pm
by grump
copycat be very wary of the pedders free check. when they checked mine you would have thought that i had delivered it to them on a tilt tray. the report they gave me was a total fantasy, and the end result was utter confusion. I replaced dampers and springs only (not from them) and it solved all my problems. I'm not saying that you have a problem with your dampers and springs, just be very wary of their report.

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:35 am
by Adam_NAclubman
The Pedders free check relates to what they want you to pay them to do, not what actually needs to be done

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:59 pm
by NMX516
How many km's has the car done? The suspension bushes could be past their best, and the new stiffer side wall tyres have just happened to show this up. Also, if camber was adjusted and the lower control arm bushes are flogged, that could have moved those bushes slightly to a position where they are now not really doing much work. You should go to a specialist wheel aligner - someone who only does suspension and nothing else, and has a good reputation, i.e I wouldn't get Pedders to work on my car. Some of the VIC guys who hang out in the motorsport section on here could recommend a good aligner for you.

Also, NA6's can be very sensitive to poorly balanced wheels. Generally noticed at higher speeds though - 100km/hr.

As for tyre pressures, if you want those tyres to last well and perform well, keep them up around 32 to 34 min. The only reason the Bridgestone guy suggested 26 is because he thought he would get you off the phone and "solve" (more like mask) your problem with lower pressures. 26psi will give you much shorter tyre life than mid to high 30's, good for Bridgestone as they sell more tyres then. Worst case if all the above checks out ok and you still consider the tyres to be too stiff, you could always trade them in on a different set, minimising lost dollars.

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:20 am
by rjastra2
The shake doesn't happen when I hit large bumps - it's happens on much smaller bumps which sometimes you can't even see.


Sounds like a combination of the stiffer sidewalled Bridgestones combined with too much highspeed comp damping of the Bilsteins. Are the Bilsteins from a Clubman?

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:54 pm
by Gazbo
I notice a lot more scuttle shake on my NA6 when running with 205/50/15 compared to 185/60/14. Usually run with 28psi in both cases.

The 205s are Dunlop Direzza DZ101s, the 185s are cheaper Goodyear Regatta tyres. The Direzza's probably have stiffer sidewalls, and that, combined with the lower profile, causes the extra "tremors" throughout the car.

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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:35 pm
by bigdog
8) :D

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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:17 pm
by rjastra2
I guess there's a lesson here - don't ignore wheel alignment and make sure it's as close to perfect as you can get it.


very true... the first thing any new (or used) car buyer should do is get a wheel alignment done.