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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Guran » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:55 pm

Hey Phil, for the benefit of NC owners who might be considering following your path (no, not me), could you please summarise your current modifications? Going from memory, I think your car is only mildly modified: headers, exhaust, intake, coilovers, ECU remap, R-spec tyres, brake pads, brake ducting, race seat, harness. Probably a few other things I've missed. Amazing that it takes so little modification (but quite a bit of driver skill!) to drop a road-registered daily-driven NC into 1:09s! :mrgreen:
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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Sailor » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:06 pm

Bryan, Phil has no harness!!
After he gets one and pads out the seat for his skinny arse, I'm sure we'll see another few tenths come off. :)
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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Charlie Brown » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:30 pm

Guran wrote:Hey Phil, for the benefit of NC owners who might be considering following your path (no, not me), could you please summarise your current modifications? Going from memory, I think your car is only mildly modified: headers, exhaust, intake, coilovers, ECU remap, R-spec tyres, brake pads, brake ducting, race seat, harness. Probably a few other things I've missed. Amazing that it takes so little modification (but quite a bit of driver skill!) to drop a road-registered daily-driven NC into 1:09s! :mrgreen:

Yep, mostly right Bryan.
Mods are AEM cold air intake (don't know if this gets you any more power), Goodwin headers, stock mid pipe, small muffler for the track, Whiteline adjustable sway bars, Tein Flex shocks, lightened flywheel, DBA Club Spec front rotors, Hawk blue pads up front, EBC Redstuff at the rear, Motul 600 race brake fluid, SS brakelines, ducting to front brakes, Sparco seat, Deckspeed tune, 16x8 RX7 rims with V70a R-Spec tyres, the rest is stock. No braces, no 4.1 diff, no super/turbo charger, no harness, no bigger mid pipe but the biggest mod is "bum on seat time". :wink:
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Wakefield 1:09.13 Eastern Creek GP 1:50.198 Ext 2:17.538 Sth 1:02.9003
Phillip Is 1:58.50 Winton Short 1:10.7 Lakeside 1:05.7711 MDTC 45.20

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby evil_weevil » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:27 pm

that is a fantastic time mate, well done.

I think an Nc race car will be my NA's upgrade!
Looking for an SVT motor for this:
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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby dude04 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:14 pm

congrats CB that time is amazing

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Charlie Brown » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:13 pm

evil_weevil wrote:that is a fantastic time mate, well done.

I think an Nc race car will be my NA's upgrade!

dude04 wrote:congrats CB that time is amazing

Thanks guys.

Here's a shot from Tilt taken at Turn 2. :D

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Wakefield 1:09.13 Eastern Creek GP 1:50.198 Ext 2:17.538 Sth 1:02.9003
Phillip Is 1:58.50 Winton Short 1:10.7 Lakeside 1:05.7711 MDTC 45.20

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby evil_weevil » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:45 pm

thats worthy of a pool room framed photo mate!
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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby bruce » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:52 pm

Charlie Brown wrote: the biggest mod is "bum on seat time". :wink:


Ayi-yi-yi, no pants!

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby PaulF » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:12 pm

bruce wrote:
Charlie Brown wrote: the biggest mod is "bum on seat time". :wink:


Ayi-yi-yi, no pants!

Pants are heavy. :wink:

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby neilhr » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:19 pm

That is a great shot and 1:09 is absolutely amazing :shock: ! well done :NETPOINTZ:

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Charlie Brown » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:54 pm

neilhr wrote:That is a great shot and 1:09 is absolutely amazing :shock: ! well done :NETPOINTZ:

You need to come and play with us up front Neil. If a normally aspirated NC can do 1:09s then your's is 1:07 car, provided you can control wheel spin. :mrgreen:
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Wakefield 1:09.13 Eastern Creek GP 1:50.198 Ext 2:17.538 Sth 1:02.9003
Phillip Is 1:58.50 Winton Short 1:10.7 Lakeside 1:05.7711 MDTC 45.20

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby neilhr » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:03 pm

im curious what it will do in winter! But yes I got some work to do!

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby marcusus » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:05 am

Amazing time Phil! I'd be happy if I was doing your old 1:12:xx times!

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Charlie Brown » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:48 pm

marcusus wrote:Amazing time Phil! I'd be happy if I was doing your old 1:12:xx times!

Thanks Marcus.

Here’s a time line on what “goodies” were fitted to the car and how they affected lap times at Wakefield, taking the best times achieved with them fitted.

• 7/2006 King lowering springs, stock Michelin tyres – 1:15.03

• 5/2007 King Springs, 16*8 RX7 rims fitted with second hand Dunlop 225*50 D01 tyres – 1:13.46

• 6/2007 King Springs, 16*8 RX7 rims fitted with second hand Dunlop 225*50 D01 tyres, Whiteline Sways Bars – 1:13.18

• 10/2009 King Springs, 16*8 RX7 rims fitted with second hand Dunlop 225*50 D01 tyres, Whiteline Sways Bars, Goodwin header – 1:11.26

• 2/2010 Teins, 16*8 RX7 rims fitted with new Kumho V70a 215*45 tyres, Whiteline Sways Bars, Goodwin header, slotted rotors – 1:10.64

• 6/2012 Teins, 16*8 RX7 rims fitted with Kumho V70a 215*45 tyres, Whiteline Sways Bars, Goodwin header, slotted rotors, lightened flywheel, Dynotronics tune – 1:10.33

• 1/2013 Teins, 16*8 RX7 rims fitted with Kumho V70a 215*45 tyres, Whiteline Sways Bars, Goodwin header, slotted rotors, lightened flywheel, Deckspeed tune – 1:09.65

You can see that the R-Spec tyres and the headers made a huge difference in time.
What shouldn't be forgotten was working with Stu at Spinning Wheel on various alignments and that should not be underestimated in the times achieved.
Also the fitting of the sway bars made more of a difference than is revealed with the times, as did decent brake pads. Don't fit Red Stuff.

So "bang for the buck" to get a NC going fast, in my perceived order:
Seat time,
R-Spec tyres,
alignment,
headers,
tune,
swaybars,
then springs/shocks.

See you at the track when you come east. :D
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Wakefield 1:09.13 Eastern Creek GP 1:50.198 Ext 2:17.538 Sth 1:02.9003
Phillip Is 1:58.50 Winton Short 1:10.7 Lakeside 1:05.7711 MDTC 45.20

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Re: Charlie Brown's NC

Postby Hellmun » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:38 pm

Congrats Phil that's an awesome time, should be very proud as it's incredibly hard to break that 1:10 barrier in a road car.... my car had everything in the rulebook except cam shafts and I still only ever cracked it less than 10 times ....


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