The journey to Apu
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Re: The journey to Apu
Sorry that's what I meant, weight saving for a/c and for power steering.
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Ah! Haven't weighed it. The stuff is still at Mania, but I understand the whole a/c unit is ~15kg. P/S probably not much I'm guessing...<5kg of container, fluid and a couple of lines.
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Probably talking to myself here but thought I'd give some feedback on how the car feels now with the few changes of late.
Interestingly enough, I notice that Apu appears to sit a bit higher without the aircon. I didn't think ~15kg would make that difference. Someone who has seen the car prior also mentioned the same. Looks like I'll take some preload off the Teins when I get a chance. Drive wise, I honestly can't tell the difference.
Steering wise, the car feels so much better (to me at least...I know Morlock is probably having a heart attack now) with the steering de-powered. I've always felt the steering on the MX5 was too light and twitchy. The car is a little harder to park - I can't just swing it into a lot but hey...I only park the car once a day. On the road the car feels great, and around corners and bends it just gives me that bit more confidence. Can't wait for the next track day!
Interestingly enough, I notice that Apu appears to sit a bit higher without the aircon. I didn't think ~15kg would make that difference. Someone who has seen the car prior also mentioned the same. Looks like I'll take some preload off the Teins when I get a chance. Drive wise, I honestly can't tell the difference.
Steering wise, the car feels so much better (to me at least...I know Morlock is probably having a heart attack now) with the steering de-powered. I've always felt the steering on the MX5 was too light and twitchy. The car is a little harder to park - I can't just swing it into a lot but hey...I only park the car once a day. On the road the car feels great, and around corners and bends it just gives me that bit more confidence. Can't wait for the next track day!
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nice work
that's interesting that 15kg would make a difference to the height of the car
that's interesting that 15kg would make a difference to the height of the car
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Regie wrote:nice work
that's interesting that 15kg would make a difference to the height of the car
Now imagine what happens to the car when 'we' sit in it... did I hear a diet plan?
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Regie wrote:nice work
that's interesting that 15kg would make a difference to the height of the car
Well, you're right. I didn't expect to see a difference to be honest, but I did use to have a less than a 2 finger gap in the wheel arch. Now...I have just a bit more than that.
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Re: The journey to Apu
If tis say, 25kg all up (dont forget fluids and a lot couple kilos of gas), that 25/500, 5% of the weight on the front axle.
If the suspension has say, 20cm of droop (which is about right) then 5% of 20cm is 1cm, thats about how much higher you would expect it to be, maybe a little less.
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If the suspension has say, 20cm of droop (which is about right) then 5% of 20cm is 1cm, thats about how much higher you would expect it to be, maybe a little less.
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OK that makes a lot more sense. I haven't weighed the box of stuff but I'd hazard at least 15kg.
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Was it hard to remove P/s and a/c, thinking about doing that for mine or did you get mechanics to do it if so how much ?
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I had MX5 Mania remove it for me. Best you give them a call.
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BadBong wrote:Regie wrote:nice work
that's interesting that 15kg would make a difference to the height of the car
Now imagine what happens to the car when 'we' sit in it... did I hear a diet plan?
haha too right, hello quicker track times!
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I should add also, the Bride seats are probably saved a couple of kilos...but not much. A kg here and there...all adds up.
But Vic is right, Apu will be going on a diet. Once the renos are done and I have my garage back, I'll be taking the carpet and crap Jaycar soundproofing out. That job will be a real PITA.
Might also consider going the modern route of removing the spare and replacing it with and inflator can.
But Vic is right, Apu will be going on a diet. Once the renos are done and I have my garage back, I'll be taking the carpet and crap Jaycar soundproofing out. That job will be a real PITA.
Might also consider going the modern route of removing the spare and replacing it with and inflator can.
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Re: The journey to Apu
Just got back from Circuit Club today so thought I'd give an update on how the car feels without power steering on the track. I love it!
Sure it's a bit heavier when parking but I can really feel where the car is pointing now - I've always felt power assisted MX5s were really light (lighter than my Integra too) and I was never fully confident of what the front wheels were doing.
Today was a different story, even driving in the (light) rain I'd have a good sense of when I was going into understeer / losing traction in front. I had a few sideways moments and caught all of them. In the past, chances were I'd lose it. I guess I'm just really heavy handed, whilst MX5s need a reasonably fine touch.
Anyway, happy but not so pleased that I didn't hang around for a timed session when it dried out. Looking forward to the next track day!
Sure it's a bit heavier when parking but I can really feel where the car is pointing now - I've always felt power assisted MX5s were really light (lighter than my Integra too) and I was never fully confident of what the front wheels were doing.
Today was a different story, even driving in the (light) rain I'd have a good sense of when I was going into understeer / losing traction in front. I had a few sideways moments and caught all of them. In the past, chances were I'd lose it. I guess I'm just really heavy handed, whilst MX5s need a reasonably fine touch.
Anyway, happy but not so pleased that I didn't hang around for a timed session when it dried out. Looking forward to the next track day!
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Re: The journey to Apu
Read this from front to back.
Great work and loving the way you've improved Apu
Great work and loving the way you've improved Apu
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Re: The journey to Apu
Thanks jtd. I didn't update the last Circuit Club outing again where we had a good dry run. I ran the car back to back with my uncle driving the session after myself.
Apu ran faultlessly, but brakes did just get a little spongey in the afternoon. I also did a new PB in the 1:16s and know I can go harder as I was driving to conserve the car and tyres a bit for my uncle who was going out right after me.
I've since got new Hankook RS3 tyres from JDMYard but I probably won't fit them until I get a new set of bushes fitted, and an alignment done at the same time.
Apu ran faultlessly, but brakes did just get a little spongey in the afternoon. I also did a new PB in the 1:16s and know I can go harder as I was driving to conserve the car and tyres a bit for my uncle who was going out right after me.
I've since got new Hankook RS3 tyres from JDMYard but I probably won't fit them until I get a new set of bushes fitted, and an alignment done at the same time.
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