Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby TTT » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:37 am

Mine has:
Intake
Exhaust
Yellow speed coilovers
Chassis Rail Frames
AGI roll over bar
15x7s with RE002 195s
Wheel allignment

No Power steering

So I don't think it will be a great comparison, but you also did mention you were thinking of going NA so that you can tinker with it.
In my eyes, the above mods are pretty much the path most will take.

I don't know if my car has had the timing advance that people do for a little more power.
It's not a fast car.
It is a fun car.

Wish it had a proper LSD though.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby sunlightsilver » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:43 am

Thanks for the replies everyone, I've got a better idea of the pros and cons of both sides now.

93_Clubman wrote:Plenty of cheap NA6s, but good ones that compare favourably with the likely condition of your 2000 NB8B will cost more than the cheap ones. A good NA8 will probably cost about the same or more as your car here:
viewtopic.php?f=73&t=58555&start=15

So the upshot might be that you don't have as much money from the sale of your 2000 NB8B to spend on NA mods as you think, unless you pick-up a cheap NA.


I have a decent amount of savings tucked away even now, I just haven't decided if I want to go ahead and put that money into my NB or sell the car and use it on an NA, hence the thread. With the current condition of my NB I'd probably be able to break even on it, as I've fixed up little things (ie replaced soft top etc).

If I were to get an NA, I'd try to get an NA8. After driving an NA and then driving my car again I can definitely notice that my NB just feels tighter. Can't really explain it, but shifting and braking is definitely years ahead of the NA I drove. The power difference was negligible.

TTT wrote:So I don't think it will be a great comparison, but you also did mention you were thinking of going NA so that you can tinker with it.
In my eyes, the above mods are pretty much the path most will take.


Yeah I'm still interested in just trying another NA, may as well drive a couple to get a definitive answer. Hopefully I can come to Mt Nebo with you to try it out. I'm not fussed about comparing stock vs stock, as it'd be hard to come by an mx5 that hasn't had at least something done to it. More interested in the feel of the car and if I like it more than what I have.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby Mr Morlock » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:09 am

The NA8 and P1 is not as good a car as a P2- it flies in the face of all logic.Incidentally the P2 lists the car as more KW with VVT. Mazda improved the breed. Money also needs to be respected and is not for throwing around but to be used judiciously- once its spent or if one is out of work it takes on a bit more perspective. Safety in a car is big factor- an air bag can save a persons life or lessen injuries- we are talking small cars. The only reason to mod an NB is for the hell of it-the car pretty has what it needs to have as a daily used vehicle. If you have to mod a car to enjoy it then you are probably on a slippery slope. A daily driver has to be easy to live with. How many K's a year and how often dríven.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby ausbuoy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:19 am

Hi-I see you have had plenty of 'feed back' from the Forum members, (they're quite good at that), and you will no doubt have plenty of 'grist for the mill' to make a judgement. Additionally I did send you a PM last night (still in my 'outbox' so prob unread) offering a drive in my "embarrassingly stone stock" '89 Eunos.
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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby ausbuoy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:23 am

P.S. Just for a little levity I must say it is not my ONLY mx5. Confession being good for the soul (I hope), I advise that I am on a VERY "slippery slope", and you may wish to heed the words of of the inimitable albeit Morbid Morlock!:_)
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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby sunlightsilver » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:27 am

Mr Morlock wrote:If you have to mod a car to enjoy it then you are probably on a slippery slope. A daily driver has to be easy to live with. How many K's a year and how often dríven.


I don't have to mod it to enjoy it. I do enjoy my NB - I've just always liked NA's too and recently have become more curious as to what they're like. Seeing what people modify on their cars on this forum is definitely inspiring me to do it myself, but I definitely don't need to be modding my NB (or NA if I got one) to be able to enjoy the car.

Currently my NB is my only car. I drive it every day to work and back, but have been considering taking public transport again as the K's are clocking up (bout 90km round trip). Current k's on my NB is 150000. Just ticked over a few days ago.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby TTT » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:28 am

WTF is this P1 and P2 stuff?

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby hks_kansei » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:39 am

TTT wrote:WTF is this P1 and P2 stuff?


NB8A and NB8B

The P designation is from the VIN, NB8P1****** and NB8P2****** if I recall.

Each market tends to use a different designation, Japan tends to use either the year, or I've seen "kouki" and "zenki" or "bf MC" "after MC" used there too (basically before and after model change)

Australia tends to go by NB8A, B, C, however some prefer the P1/P2 desigmation.

The UK seems to use Mk2 and Mk2.5


There's also a lot of overlap between the lot though, so you end up with Aussies wanting a MK2.5 MX5, and poms wanting an NB8C.
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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:42 pm

This whole, 'if you have to mod a car to enjoy it' thing is BS.

Maybe I drive differently to you. I would think that anyone who has dríven a car with an open diff or an na6 with it's VLSD knows what I am talking about.

Note: I used the word 'dríven', not the 'commuted in'.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby TTT » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:32 pm

NitroDann wrote:I would think that anyone who has dríven a car with an open diff or an na6 with it's VLSD knows what I am talking about.



Agreed....

I'm sick of drawing 1's here..
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11's would make it much betterer

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby cookie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:43 pm

TTT wrote:
NitroDann wrote:I would think that anyone who has dríven a car with an open diff or an na6 with it's VLSD knows what I am talking about.



Agreed....

I'm sick of drawing 1's here..
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11's would make it much betterer

And it's fwits like you who ruin it all for everyone...

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:56 pm

He is simply pointing out that with an LSD that worked properly he would be able to drive that corner without simply spinning a tyre.

I bet if you drove a Reliant Robin, you would be under the impression that everybody on the road drove too fast for the conditions..

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speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby cookie » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:12 pm

NitroDann wrote:He is simply pointing out that with an LSD that worked properly he would be able to drive that corner without simply spinning a tyre.

I bet if you drove a Reliant Robin, you would be under the impression that everybody on the road drove too fast for the conditions..

Dann



Agree 100%. Maybe saying, if I had an lsd I wouldn't be spinning one wheel around this corner. I get the feeling there's two distinct camps on this forum. Young street racers and the older generation. Exceptions to both categories. It's rather interesting coming from multiple forums, both of which are either one or another.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:17 pm

I tend to agree, however I think that there is some judgement that cannot be made without understanding the specific situation.

Would I encourage everyone to hit every corner sideways? No.

However if someone simply said they stepped it out on a hairpin in the woods I couldn't immediately assume that it was a dangerous decision. There is always circumstances. If there is a clear view around the bend and its a 1st gear corner you know well with no one in sight on an old backroad... well I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.

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Re: Considering selling my NB to get an NA..

Postby TTT » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:23 pm

cookie wrote:And it's fwits like you who ruin it all for everyone...


Take it easy princess.
NA6 doesn't have the power to paint 11s

Also... you've been here like 3 weeks.
Perhaps think first before calling people fwits hey?


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