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Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Hammer » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:53 am

I'm sure it will not be a surprised to anyone who wins this drag race. Question is, by how much?

Here are some words from the Motor article:

"Which engine gives you the most bang for your buck? It's not giving away too much to say that the 2.0-litre MX-5 is the winner here. As it should be, with 118kW/200Nm to the 1.5-litre's 96kW/150Nm and only an extra 20-odd kilograms to push. But the question is: how much faster is it?

The baby-engined MX-5 has surprised us in the past by smashing its claimed 8.3sec 0-100km/h claim, so can the 2.0-litre do the same? Or is the gap between the two marginal?

Forty-degree temperatures on the day certainly didn't help the times, but we've now answered which is fastest. As for which is best? That's a story still to come."


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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby manga_blue » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:17 am

Lighter, simpler, almost as fast. I'll take the 1.5.
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Steampunk » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:06 am

Red car also got away smidge earlier.
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Vat » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:06 pm

manga_blue wrote:Lighter, simpler, almost as fast. I'll take the 1.5.

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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby project.r.racing » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:07 pm

You dont buy an MX5 for its dragway straight speed. The video is only 25% of the story when it comes to an MX5.

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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby zossy1 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:25 pm

Hmm... So the 2L is nearly a second quicker over the standing quarter, and to 100kmh.

On the evidence of the video, the 2L will also put 3-4 car lengths on a 1.5L out of every corner.

Give me torque over revs any day. 2L is the choice for me.

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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Rocky » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:30 pm

Seriously, a second is of absolutely no consequence. You get more than that due to differences in driver ability/reflexes.
3 or 4 secs might be significant.
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Okibi » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:45 pm

At least do about 10 runs and swap drivers every run to make the results a little stronger.

1 second down the quarter mile is significant enough, I think my stock NB was running 16.3s (with my fat ass onboard)
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Dan » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:56 pm

Rocky wrote:Seriously, a second is of absolutely no consequence. You get more than that due to differences in driver ability/reflexes.
3 or 4 secs might be significant.

3 or 4 seconds MIGHT be significant? A stock Nissan GTR is less than 4 seconds faster down the quarter than the 2L ND (the older ones are just more than 3 seconds faster).

A good way to compare performance and remove driver error is to divide the faster cars trap speed by the slower cars speed and then cube that number. That gives you a decent idea percentage wise of how much faster the other car is in terms of acceleration, in this case the 2L is about 19% faster.
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby SE » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:03 pm

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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Mr Morlock » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:08 pm

the bigger engine will also be quicker on the road i.e. not so dependent on revs. Also the 2L engine surely is already underdone- the 86 puts out 147KW so with a bit of tweaking you might expect much better performance from the 2L.

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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby Steampunk » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:07 pm

Okibi wrote:At least do about 10 runs and swap drivers every run to make the results a little stronger. )

I'm assuming they have done so and this is the closest/most even run.

Rocky wrote:Seriously, a second is of absolutely no consequence.

Seriously? Ah.... no.
1 second is a very considerable difference especially since the gap was getting wider.
Read ANY car article in the last 15 years comparing higher spec models of the same car,ie Audi S4 vs Rs4, Impreza WRX garden variety vs sti, and you'll mostly see all the plaudits for the faster car even though they are tweaked versions of the same engine and performance times are approx 1 second apart.
Next time you happen to be standing beside a 70km/h road, count one second between cars and you'll realise how large the gap is, even at half the speed the video depicted.
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby davekmoore » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:33 pm

Interesting test and it's good to see the results.

However, they ask which is fastest and which is best. Does being a journalist no longer include having a basic command of the English language?
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby manga_blue » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:43 pm

zossy1 wrote:Hmm... So the 2L is nearly a second quicker over the standing quarter, and to 100kmh.

On the evidence of the video, the 2L will also put 3-4 car lengths on a 1.5L out of every corner.

Give me torque over revs any day. 2L is the choice for me.
That's true up to a point, Zossy, but remember the 1.5 would be competing and often leading in the sub-1600cc classes while the 2.0 is running well back in the field against some very serious machinery in the 1600-2000cc classes in most competitions.
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Re: Mazda MX-5 drag race - 1.5 vs 2.0

Postby SE » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:54 pm

Rocky wrote:Seriously, a second is of absolutely no consequence. You get more than that due to differences in driver ability/reflexes.
3 or 4 secs might be significant.



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