Pete wrote:Luke wrote:So Pete have you dríven a 370Z?
Yes, I own a 370z, and have so for almost 4 years. Most of your observations show a lack of acquaintance and experience with the car. A test will only give you, as you have so ably shown, poorly digested and misunderstood impressions. It only gets worse as you descend to s#@%^#y.
Firstly, the 370 is not the best at any one thing, but it is great at everything. You say crazy things like, it's a 'tank'. How foolish! The power to (kerb) weight of the 370 manual is a wonderful 4.2 kg per unit of horse power. That's very very good!!! Lol, the power to (kerb) weight of the RF manual is 6.9kg. Once the 370 overcomes its initial inertia, the 370z feels much lighter and massively more powerful. For reference, the new Apine A110, so lauded for its lightness, has a power to (kerb) weight ratio of 4.3kg. Just think about that for a second!!
My wife's NC3 is
so slow and lazy on the turn in, but the 370 is infinitely sharper, with a much superior rigid chassis. Absolutely no contest.
I really believe you know nothing about the clutch of the 370, and the things you say about it, are no better than some fantasy in your own mind. I will say though, that the clutch of the 370 is a little peculiar, and I found it difficult, at first, to get seamless gear changes. Once I understood the clutch, and how to operate it, the 370 really opened up its potential and I finally got to experience what a great car the 370 actually is. As a manual driver of the 370, you need to be athletic, alert, agile and sensitive. Since you recommend the auto, obviously you have none of these characteristics. Clearly the manual 370z is not a car for clumsy oafs.
"Fuel starvation' is just rubbish. I fill up on the final dot of the fuel gauge (which represents 4.5 liters) and I've never had fuel problems while turning hard rights.
The engines of the NC3 and 370 are great, but the high revving VQ engine is so strong and seemingly bullet proof. I think the VQ is a brilliant engine, extremely well engineered and made.
Sorry to the rest of you on this forum, but I have to bite.
Mate you are a moron.
I stated observations after driving the 370Z and doing a few months of research before coming to the decision of purchasing a ND instead.
With the purpose of using the car on track I didn't exactly take the decision lightly and found those shortcoming I listed to be a major deal breaker for using the car on track. I never see any 370Z's out at any of the 15 or so track events I do a year and after doing my research, there is good reason for that.
I have actually dríven a 370Z at a Phillip Island on the skid pan in 2014 as well as part of GT Academy. Terrible understeer built into the car.
I took the ND on the Skidpan on Sunday as it came from the factory and I could point it where I wanted it to go after just 1 go. I can't say the same about the Z.
The engine may be well engineered, but they forgot to keep it cool.
And yes it has power giving it a better power to weight ratio than a MX-5. So does a GTS commodore. I didn't even mention anything about power so I don't know why this has been brought up anyway.
You shouldn't need to get used to a clutch. All manual cars have them. I have dríven a few V8's with far more torque which have a much lighter clutch pedal. Clearly the engineering behind the Z's clutch has the mechanical leverage or hydraulics set up incorrectly to be that heavy.
The fact that for 2018 models Nissan are fixing the clutch by making it lighter should be a clear indication that the original design for the last 9 years has been flawed.
All 2018 370Zs, Nissan says, “feature a new motorsports-inspired Exedy high-performance clutch.” After working with Nissan Motorsports in what Nissan calls a longstanding relationship, Exedy developed a light pedal effort clutch for the 370Z, which Nissan says enhances “driving response.”
So Nissan have obviously acknowledged that the original clutch setup was heavy and went to a popular after market clutch company to fix it, yet you say the current clutch is great???
I'd like to drive the 2018 update to see how much better the clutch really is.
I gather they still haven't fixed up the oil overheating or fuel starvation problems though. They are there. Obviously you haven't pushed the car hard enough to experience them.
Now this is the problem people are having with you on this forum.
Every time someones posts some thing they have observed about a car you just want to rubbish them then throw personal insults out on top with no knowledge of the people or specific person you are insulting.
Here is a sample of insults and crap you have posted in this thread in one place for you to review, just so you can see what sort of a moron you really are.
Now, I'm a stock guy, and wouldn't consider after market junk. It must be original and factory installed. Lord knows, checking out some of the monstrosities on this forum, you guys have cemented my opinion.
Great start, lets insult half the people on this forum the beginning.
Hey, I've ordered the car and will have it early next year. I've patiently waited for the right ND and this is it. If I was from marketing then I wouldn't have been shitting on some of those modded MX5s.
Contradicting your first post now are we?
Too many people on youtube, for whom a sports car is totally unsuitable, air their irrelevant opinions.'Too many pies' is your fault. Did anyone see the review of the Nismo 370z on Drive.com.au? Did you notice the size of the reviewer? It was disgusting to see such a hippo stuffed into the small Nismo. Nothing could be more unnatural, including the opinions expressed.
I agree in principal, but should you be posting this in a public place? Ever heard of if you have nothing nice to say about someone, say nothing at all?
As a manual driver of the 370, you need to be athletic, alert, agile and sensitive. Since you recommend the auto, obviously you have none of these characteristics. Clearly the manual 370z is not a car for clumsy oafs.
Really? So you have met me before then? I didn't recommend the Auto. I just said it would be a nice everyday drive car, where as the Manual to me would not be due to its ridiculously heavy clutch pedal.
I can't believe I'm saying this but an Auto one would be a very nice everyday car to drive.
Good thing I'm not sensitive then, this is fun for me going through your dribble and picking it all apart.
and comes with gold etched Recaro seats and sardine style door handles.
but I will take them! I will spray paint an "R" in front that will be a challenge 
